Yesterday, as Dottie was giving me my afternoon walk, we came upon one of these. It’s an Oak snake – not poisonous. I saw it before she did – when we were a good fifteen feet away from it – so I proceeded to guide her to the other side of the street. About the time I started to pull her that way the snake saw us. It raise it’s head up and coiled a bit. Dottie staged a sit in and began to whine when the snake slithered away and I didn’t let her follow.
“Come on, Dottie,” I called to her. Hesitatingly, she did, stopping every few seconds to turn around and get another look.
I don’t like snakes. There a various and sundry theories of how to tell a poisonous[scary] snake from a non-poisonous[good] snake. Most of them involve getting close enough to see the size and shape of it’s head. I’m not interested unless I have some killing tool in my hand. I didn’t have any such tool at my disposal at the time.
TheBrit likes the live and let live approach. He’d get close enough to see whether he thinks it’s poisonous or not. Either way he wouldn’t kill it unless he felt threatened. My feelings on the matter are that the only good snake is a dead one, but I haven’t had to kill many.
“If it’s not hurting me I’m not going to kill it,” he says.
“That snake might not hurt me, but it will damn sure make me hurt myself!” I say.
That wasn’t the first snake of the day. Dottie and I encountered a much smaller one on our morning walk. It’s hot here and the snakes are on the move.
So are the alligators. We live in a neighborhood situated between several large lakes and they move from one to another. Dottie would be a small snack for one of those things. A neighbor down the street has lost two dogs to alligators. Her house backs up to the lake. Mine doesn’t. I’m good with that. Thankfully I haven’t seen one and hopefully I won’t.
I’m reticent about letting Dottie just go trudging into the shrubbery because of the aforementioned snakes and alligators but last night on our night-time walk she poked her head into the shrubs and flushed out a baby opossum. Adult opossums are kind of…unattractive. But the baby ones are sort of cute(ish).
Dottie was ready to play. She hopped over to the baby opossum and started to bark. The baby opossum did what baby opossums do. It played dead. Didn’t move a muscle. Dottie barked, and growled, and howled. Still no movement. Yawn. It’s not much fun to play with something that won’t play back.
May 30, 2014 at 12:36 pm
That snake picture sent shivers down my spine.
My parents live in Arizona, and they’ve had a few close encounters with rattlesnakes. Luckily, they have the same philosophy you do about leaving snakes alone so no one has ever been bitten.
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May 30, 2014 at 3:13 pm
I really don’t care if they’re poisonous or not, I don’t like ’em. That one was down the street a pretty good ways from my house. Had it been at my house either a) I would’ve killed it or b) TheBrit would’ve taken it down the street a pretty good ways.
I’m not afraid of snakes I can see so much as ones I can’t. As in, if I see the snake and then it slithers away and I now don’t know where it is. Not good.
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May 30, 2014 at 12:38 pm
Snakes and alligators? Have you considered moving?
I have encountered opossums in the past. My wife, when we lived in Massachusetts, used to put out cat food for the strays and at night, if we forgot to take it in, three or four opossums would waddle onto our porch and start feasting on the cat food. I would open the door to chase them away, but these opossums did not play dead. In fact, they seemed totally unperturbed by my efforts to shoo them off and actually got fairly aggressive toward me. So I shut the door and played dead.
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May 30, 2014 at 3:15 pm
Haha! I’ve lived here all my life. Snakes, alligators and creepy crawlies of most every kind just come with the territory. Having said that, I still don’t care for them.
Did those opossums have rabies or something?!?
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May 30, 2014 at 3:16 pm
I don’t know if they had rabies, but they sure seemed mad when I tried to chase them away!
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May 30, 2014 at 3:37 pm
Don’t get between a wild animal and it’s food source! I’ve heard of raccoons and possums eating cat food that’s been left out, but never getting aggressive. They usually scatter when humans come near.
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May 30, 2014 at 3:52 pm
That’s pretty much what the raccoons did when I caught them eating the cat food…they scattered. But those opossums were undeterred by my presence.
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May 31, 2014 at 11:54 am
I would not count on that, Ruth. Possums and raccoons can be very aggressive. And skunks. I have had nasty encounters with all these animals at one time or another. Bottom line – don’t mess with them during meal time!
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May 31, 2014 at 12:08 pm
Hmm…I’ll keep that in mind. It’s usually pretty good advice to keep your distance with wild animals anyway.
My experience has been that when the lights flip on the raccoons and possums tend to scatter, but I guess that depends on how hungry they are.
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May 30, 2014 at 1:01 pm
Snakes and rats in Spain. All good prey for hunting dogs. Poor old Podenco is making do with shredding a shoe right now. Earlier it was a book. He could use a possum or a snake I’m sure.
Where’s the pic of Dottie?!
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May 30, 2014 at 3:19 pm
Well the kind of snake in the above picture eats rats and the like. I hope that’s not a good pair of shoes Podenco is munching on. Dottie’s managed to eat the toe out of one of TheBrit’s yard-work shoes and a pair of flip-flops.
I’ll rectify the Dottie-pic situation tomorrow! TheBrit took some good ones of her this week.
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May 30, 2014 at 1:15 pm
Snakes are fine. It’s dirty great big spiders that freak me out.
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May 30, 2014 at 3:27 pm
I’m not a big fan of things that crawl or slither. I know that lizards and frogs eat bugs but I don’t really want to hold them. I also know that most spiders aren’t poisonous, but I go ape-shit if one gets on me. *shudder*
When we first bought our house last summer TheBrit and I were down there showing some of my family the place. He saw a bloody huge brown furry spider and decided he wanted to pick it up. So I say, “You really don’t want to be messing with that. Put him down.”
We get in the car to head back to our rental place and he says. “Uh-oh.”
“Uh-oh what?”
“I think that spider was on me and I brushed at it. I think it went in your handbag.”
“Bull – you didn’t have that thing in my car.”
We left it at that and I thought he was just pulling my leg. I forgot all about it.
A few days later we were driving down the road and talking. He says, “Just keep talking and pay attention to where you’re going.” So I keep talking and looking ahead and he gently reaches over rubs my shoulder. Then he quickly pulls his hand away and lets the window down.
He says, “Remember I told you I thought that spider went in your handbag? Well, I just took it off your shoulder and put it out the window.”
I look at him lovingly and say, “It’s a good thing you saw it and I didn’t. I would have wrecked this car and killed us both.”
I’m not kidding. Things like that may not hurt me, but they will definitely make me hurt myself.
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May 30, 2014 at 3:54 pm
Sounds like The Brit is a person i’d like to have next to me in a foxhole.
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May 30, 2014 at 9:43 pm
Are you planning to be in a foxhole filled with spiders and snakes?
You two make yourselves cozy in there. I’ll stay out of that.
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May 30, 2014 at 9:46 pm
No spiders, but according to Pink we need the snakes to make and serve Hors d’oeuvre, and play music 🙂
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May 30, 2014 at 7:47 pm
Freud might say that’s a very gay comment 😀
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May 30, 2014 at 7:54 pm
Ha! Do i get a pass for being Australian?
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May 30, 2014 at 7:56 pm
No, because I have to watch those Foster’s beer ads EVERY-DAY.
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May 30, 2014 at 9:43 pm
Ahhh, but no one drinks Fosters in Australia. I’m not even sure you can buy it there.
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May 30, 2014 at 9:47 pm
But I thought Foster’s was Australian for beer. That’s some nasty stuff!
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May 30, 2014 at 9:49 pm
It started in NSW, but it was never big. Seems the Brits thought otherwise and the rest is a rather unfortunate tale. I’ve never seen it served anywhere, or in any bottleshop.
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May 30, 2014 at 10:01 pm
I’ve never seen it in a bottle. Only cans. When they say it’s bitter they’re not lying. Yuck!
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May 30, 2014 at 10:04 pm
You’re saying its worse than American beers?
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May 30, 2014 at 10:08 pm
It’s pretty gross. TheBrit likes it. But he just likes beer.
Why do you say American beers like that?
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May 30, 2014 at 10:11 pm
Hehehe… Your beers are pretty weak compared to others. Cheap, though.
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May 31, 2014 at 8:59 am
Uh huh…those beers that come in 30 packs for 8 bucks. Not good. The major brands do tend to water it down and make it cheap.
There are some craft beers here that are really quite nice, though.
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May 30, 2014 at 1:38 pm
I don’t like anything that creeps. But hey, if I see a snake, I will give it a wide berth unless I find it in the house then one of may get hurt
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May 30, 2014 at 3:31 pm
A wide berth is definitely what I was giving this fellow. Even though I know they’re more afraid of me than I am of them, it gives me no great comfort.
When I was a kid I got off the school bus one day and headed inside. My mother was standing at the kitchen sink washing dishes. There was stick laying on the counter next to her. Reaching for it I say, “Mama, what’s this stick doing in here?” As I reach for it, it moves. “Uh, this isn’t a stick. It’s a snake!”
She chopped a hole in the kitchen floor with the garden hoe.
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May 30, 2014 at 1:46 pm
That is one stunning snake for sure and I am glad you didn’t have anything nearby to kill it with. Awesome shots of it and the baby possum. What a cutie! 😀
I would love to see a photo of Dottie as well. 🙂
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May 30, 2014 at 3:32 pm
I’d like to take credit for the photos, but as I was walking Dottie I didn’t have the camera handy. Those are free ones off of Google images, but pretty accurate to the real ones I saw.
I’ll get some pics up of Dottie tomorrow. 😀
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May 30, 2014 at 4:30 pm
I hike and run in the desert almost every other day. I have done this since I was a kid. I have had more close calls with rattlers than I can think of. I don’t provoke them, but they camouflage so well in the desert environment that I nearly step on them only to see them at the last split second. I am with your husband – they are dangerous, but I am not afraid of them and as long as I am out of striking distance, I know I am OK. The only time I have killed rattlesnakes is if I find them in or near the house. They can stay in the desert, but I do not want them making residence too close to me. Otherwise, I think snakes are beautiful animals.
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May 30, 2014 at 9:40 pm
Yes, they are beatiful-when they are a good distance from me.
Does your life flash before your eyes when you have those near death experiences?
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May 31, 2014 at 10:29 am
nah. I am used to them, but Rosemary scolds me for not bringing a phone in case of an emergency. As luck would have it, I just returned from a desert run and saw a small rattler on the trail. I took a photo of it for you
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May 31, 2014 at 1:28 am
My general sense on How To Handle A Snake is basically, “go the other way”. Most snakes don’t like people. We’re big, we’re violent, and we scare them. Walk away, and they’re as happy as you are. The exception, in my experience, is copperheads. They’re poisonous, and they’ll cheerfully decide to live anywhere, regardless of how much it reeks of human beings. (Rattlesnakes won’t set up shop in your garage. A copperhead will.) They are, as far as I can tell, too stupid to be afraid. So copperheads are the exception, and really should be killed on sight. Fortunately, they’re extremely easy to identify.
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May 31, 2014 at 8:38 am
Yes, yes. We get rattle snakes here. Mostly what I see are these oak snakes and regular garden snakes. Living this close to several water sources makes it a bit tricky though.
Last summer TheBrit took a picture of a baby snake and sent it to me on my phone. It was in our swimming pool with the caption “should I be playing with this?” My answer was a resounding NO! It looked like a water moccasin. Those are deadly, the baby ones even moreso than the adult ones from what I understand. Not only that – they’re aggressive. They don’t run, they chase.
Turns out it was something called a water bandit, a non-venomous snake. Why, oh, why does it look so much like a water moccasin? Eeeek!
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May 31, 2014 at 11:49 am
Michael Mock – I beg to differ. Rattlesnakes seem plenty happy camping out in a home, particularly after it starts to turn cold for the season. I remember when I was a boy, opening up the kitchen sink cabinet and got the shock of my life seeing a coiled rattler under the basin, fast asleep! We lived in an abode mud-brick house, plenty of desert critters managed to burrow into our walls for the season – and snakes would eventually find their way in too.
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May 31, 2014 at 11:51 am
I agree with you, HIS. They like barns and sheds around here, too.
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June 1, 2014 at 12:45 am
I’m in the wrong area of the country for rattlers. My experience was Tennessee, where the copperheads were the intrusive ones. I didn’t know rattlers would do that too.
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May 31, 2014 at 6:16 am
That is way cool! I have no eejy beejys with snakes.But then…I have never seen a snake in the wild!
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May 31, 2014 at 8:45 am
It’s heeby jeebys.
You don’t have snakes there? I thought snakes were everywhere. But TheBrit says not so much in England. There are only one or two kinds there?
There are 46 species of snakes found here in Georgia. Only six of them are venomous. That’s enough if you ask me.
The Georgia DNR puts out this handy dandy brochure:
Click to access 2013VenomousSnakesBrochure_Online.pdf
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May 31, 2014 at 8:52 am
You have your heeby’s I have my eejy’s. It’s the dyslexia in me 🙂
Yes, of course, we have snakes in Africa…loads of them. But I have never seen one in Johannesburg.
It’s a bit like expecting to see one slither along Oxford Road in London!
We’re not quite out in the sticks y’know….maybe just a bit closer to the Styx. 😉
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May 31, 2014 at 8:56 am
I was quoting Howard Walowitz. I should have credited him. 😀
Right, I getcha. You might not find a snake at the mall in town, but it wouldn’t be uncommon to find one in your backyard – even in town. Here the snakes don’t seem to see the city limits signs.
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May 31, 2014 at 9:01 am
Yes, I had a sneaking suspicion you were and was going to quote Raj straight back at you. lol.
I have come across a couple of small scorpions in the garden, never a snake.
In fact, I don’t know of anyone in my immediate circle who has ever encountered a snake in suburbia, though I’m sure they are around.
If we can get a Gennet on our property it shouldn’t be far fetched at all to expect we might find a snake.
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June 14, 2014 at 12:29 am
Great, thanks lot for these type of post.
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