From my facebook files:
Man can create laws, but God already has his laws in place and there is no higher court capable of overturning or revising those laws. Make no mistake…God will not honor any laws created by man. Have no fear, He is still on His throne! And He still loves all sinners….me included.
Dear facebook friend,
It is fortunate for you that what you have been and done for your whole life isn’t illegal. That somehow makes your past not so…sinful. Sure, you’re straight. But you got knocked up out of wedlock. And, like me, you’re divorced and remarried. And, really, I think you have that whole thing about God not honoring the laws of man all wrong. Your Good Book says:
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.
This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. Romans 13: 1-10(NIV)
Sounds like God approves of marriage(that’s what we’re calling it now). So please stop making the baby Jesus cry. Show your neighbors some love and respect, will ya?
Out From Under the Umbrella 
June 29, 2015 at 11:52 am
“So please stop making the baby Jesus cry.”
LOL
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June 29, 2015 at 11:56 am
And this was on my FB today. Sorry, can’t find a youtubby video link, so I hope this works. the stupidity, it burns.
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June 29, 2015 at 12:08 pm
That us evil. Or vile. Letters are the same either way. What was spooky was the kid’s expression and his body language throughout.
But, whence come these lunatics? He’s like the sort of person who stood at Hyde Park Corner and ranted and after five minutes entertainment, people wander off.
Certifiable.
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June 29, 2015 at 12:11 pm
Yep, that kid is a nutter in the making. Not his fault, he’s just being brainwashed by utter nonsense.
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June 29, 2015 at 12:12 pm
For some reason I can’t access the video.
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June 29, 2015 at 12:17 pm
Mmmm, does this one work for you?
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June 29, 2015 at 12:20 pm
I think it might be something to do with my firewall. I’ll try to look at it later on another computer.
Meanwhile, go check out CS’s latest reply to me over at IB’s.
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June 29, 2015 at 12:34 pm
Ruth, IB has hypergraphia. Which post?
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June 29, 2015 at 12:37 pm
https://insanitybytes2.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/listen-up-wordpress/
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June 29, 2015 at 12:43 pm
Thanks Ruth. I initially looked on that post, but even though the comment was recent, it’s showing up under “older comments” on another page, so I didn’t go back that far.
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June 29, 2015 at 12:44 pm
Ah. Probably because I’m replying to an older comment? Maybe? *shrug*
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June 29, 2015 at 12:56 pm
Yep. However, I found it. 🙂
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June 29, 2015 at 12:34 pm
His, “I like sour grapes” comment? CS is an odd one
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June 29, 2015 at 12:36 pm
Yes. Isn’t he, though? I’m not sure he even understood what I was saying. If he did his response reveals a lot.
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June 29, 2015 at 4:59 pm
Oi, now I’ve inspired a post for him. Can’t wait to see what kind of incoherent babble I’ve become the muse for. O_O
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June 29, 2015 at 5:43 pm
Congratulations! Of course, commenting on his blog is a living nightmare.
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June 30, 2015 at 12:19 pm
I finally got to watch the video. Maybe I missed something. Did this man say anything of substance?
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June 30, 2015 at 1:58 pm
LOL! Not that i’m aware of. He appears to be blaming da gummint for everything, and something about a Mexican named Jesus being in his house. Strange man 😉
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June 30, 2015 at 3:10 pm
The video was only 3-odd(pun intended) minutes long but I got distracted after about the first minute and a half because he was saying the same thing over and over. In fact, I had to rewind it because the kid’s voice at the end reclaimed my attention.
Strange indeed. And so sadly misinformed.
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June 29, 2015 at 12:31 pm
Ruth, in the image, there is a hyperlink after the words posted by… It will take you to their facebook page from there you can find the video.
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June 29, 2015 at 12:32 pm
Yeah, I tried that too. I think the network I’m using must be using a firewall that’s preventing me from watching.
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June 29, 2015 at 1:00 pm
maybe. the guy is raving mad
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June 29, 2015 at 12:19 pm
The poor guy doesn’t even realize that if it’s prophesy, it shall come to past, so why sweat it. He’ll be raptured. lol I will share here what I’ve just shared on the Toad’s recent post: I think that fear plays a huge role in this hysteria. I’ve shared this a lot, I realize, but it’s worth repeating. Neurological studies show that conservatives tend to have increased gray matter volume in the region of the brain associated with fear. Many religious conservatives generally fear that God’s judgement is going to come upon America, and the fear mongers (conservative politicians and conservative preachers) are milking it as best they can.
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June 29, 2015 at 12:28 pm
Toad?
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June 29, 2015 at 12:29 pm
https://anglophiletoad.wordpress.com/2015/06/29/poor-little-pooped-on/
a.k.a. Vance
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June 29, 2015 at 12:29 pm
Toad.
https://anglophiletoad.wordpress.com/
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June 29, 2015 at 12:36 pm
Aren’t they. It’s easier to incite fear than love and kindness, and I’m betting it pays much better, too.
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June 29, 2015 at 12:36 pm
John are you and your house going to serve the lawd? or you didn’t say that with him?
Where do morons like these come from
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June 29, 2015 at 1:05 pm
My house serves the one true Lawd: Velles!
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June 29, 2015 at 1:06 pm
Y’all are making the baby Jesus cry.
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June 29, 2015 at 1:25 pm
Good for you my friend,
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June 29, 2015 at 1:01 pm
It only plays the first minute and fifteen seconds or so for me. However, in that time, he couldn’t correctly identify which branch of the Federal “gummint” that made the decision.
Priceless.
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June 29, 2015 at 1:33 pm
It’s gummit hooz takn’ way our freedumbs
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June 29, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Yew knew yer rats, yessir.
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June 29, 2015 at 1:13 pm
It sounds like your video ranks right up there with this:
https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11695870_630468974081_3928649158623699031_n.jpg?oh=1541c88e0563b8dfe5238a5fc70e7492&oe=561BFB77
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June 29, 2015 at 1:34 pm
Evil world government!
I tell you what, I’d be happy if humans could be that organised. Sadly, they’re not.
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June 29, 2015 at 5:05 pm
Some of my favorites on this video:
He’s complaining about the president and congress making decisions for the people. It was SCOTUS that legalized gay marriage.
He’s complaining that people have been ignored in making this decision, yet 63% of the people in the U.S. support legalizing gay marriage.
He’s complaining about “When did states not have the right to make laws?”…um I don’t know, like when the south was hating on black people and the federal government had to step in and overrule state laws that sanctioned segregation.
“My son’s shirt…has an American flag on it…we’re Americans!” Well I didn’t know it was so easy to be an American. Just needed the T-shirt. Don’t tell ISIS!
And I agree that the saddest part here is how this kid has totally been brainwashed by his father.
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June 30, 2015 at 12:06 pm
You could swap this guy and his son for an Isis member and his son and pretty much get the same message 🙂
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June 30, 2015 at 12:18 pm
The religious right complains that SCOTUS makes laws. In my humble opinion, this is not at all what SCOTUS has done. They interpret the Constitution. If The Constitution were so clear it would need no such interpretation. I am thankful that a majority had enough courage and enough objectivity to see that all people should have rights and not just a certain segment.
States do have the right to make laws. But who steps in when those laws are biased and discriminatory? What happens when those laws run contrary to The Constitution of the United States? Exacly what happened here. SCOTUS steps in as they should.
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June 30, 2015 at 12:32 pm
I completely agree. Our democracy is much more than about what the majority says is right. What’s funny is that conservative Christian complain about atheists and their moral relativism, but then frequently use the “Well a majority of people in our state feel a certain way about gay marriage and we shouldn’t have it forced down our throats by the federal government”. It’s a fallacious argument to appeal to majority. Something is either right or wrong according to them. Therefore it’s really not about states rights at all, it is simply because of their moral opinion selectively extracted from the bible. Nothing more.
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June 30, 2015 at 12:37 pm
Agreed. And, moreover, we are, as many of them frequently point out, a republic. Our Constitution and our political system was expressly devised to protect minorities.
Discussion has come up in this thread about the slippery slope of gays and lesbians suing churches and/or churches being forced to perform gay ceremonies. I will never agree with that either. Our Constitution has set forth religious freedom and expression laws which should govern all – not just the chosen few.
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June 30, 2015 at 12:39 pm
Agreed. I would defend a church’s right not to perform a gay wedding just as strongly, because if the government starts enforcing what churches should and shouldn’t do this also breeches the separation of church and state and limits our freedoms. What the supreme court did was simply say the federal government can’t tell you who you can marry. Freedom increased, government out of my private life, people win. It’s that simple.
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June 30, 2015 at 12:44 pm
There are churches who would gladly perform such a service. There are churches who would adamantly deny such a service. This is what is meant by freedom of religion and separation of church and state. I’ve seen a lot of religious conservatives pointing out that The Constitution does not contain the words ‘separation of church and state’ to defend their championing of a theocracy. I think when all is said and done they will be holding that phrase as near and dear as those religious leaders who pressed for it.
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June 30, 2015 at 11:42 am
I wonder if he voted …
Also, what about all the things the government does for “we the people” that he likes? Ahhh but that’s DIFFERENT!
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June 29, 2015 at 12:47 pm
I don’t have any issues with gays marrying. If, as Christians, we want to save the Institute of marriage… We need to make divorce illegal… Right? How many of those that are against gay marriage are divorced ?!
Also, one argument is now that gay marriage is legal, next thing is changing the age of consent. (not because gays want children… Thought I should clarify that) but some say, if we allow same sex to marry then eventually we will allow pedophiles to freely have sex with children. I don’t think that will ever happen but there is that mindset that thinks it will.
I do want to add, I do feel it’s wrong for gay couples to force churches to marry them. They should respect the churches opinion on homosexuality and marry in a liberal church or other facility.
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June 29, 2015 at 12:54 pm
I saw an article equating pedophilia and beastiality to homosexuality with regards to the law. I don’t think that will ever gain any traction. I think it’s a shame and a sham, but fear is a huge motivator. What those on the opposing side fail to recognize is that proponents of gay marriage are not in favor of it simply because people love who they love. It has everything in the world to do with consenting adults. Many, MANY, gays and lesbians were sexually abused as children(not that that has anything to do with their sexual orientation), as have so many heterosexuals. NONE of the gay/lesbian people I know are in favor of legalizing pedophilia.
As for gay couples forcing churches/pastors to marry them? I don’t think that will ever happen. There are freedom of religion laws in place to prevent it. Again, fear sells.
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June 29, 2015 at 10:55 pm
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3714609
Granted that is in the UK, but will it happen in the US? I’m for gay marriage, but I feel it’s wrong to force/sue churches to perform gay ceremonies.
I’m for birth control, but I feel it’s wrong to force churches to offer it.
Christians fight back because they are afraid of the slippery slope. Liberal groups should respect religious instutes ethics.
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June 30, 2015 at 8:21 am
I agree with you about not forcing churches to perform gay ceremonies. Though I do think there are some churches who would welcome and gladly perform such services, I don’t agree with forcing them to if their beliefs don’t allow for that. It is important to remember that suing someone or an organization in no way means that the plaintiff will win said case. I also believe when these kinds of suits are brought that if the plaintiff loses they should be responsible for the court costs of those they’ve sued. All in all, though, even in the US if a suit like this were brought I think that the separation of church and state that our laws have afforded will keep such a thing from happening. And those who have been screaming that the Constitution doesn’t provide for it will suddenly be naming it and claiming it. I have said for a very long time that separation of church and state benefits everyone and that churches should hold to and honor it as much as the government should.
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June 30, 2015 at 11:17 am
The only thing, a few lawsuits like this could close a lot of churches. Even if the churches win the case, they lose because they have to close their doors from bankruptcy.
I try to defend some of my more liberal opinions (lol I don’t have many) but it’s tough when I read articles like this.
Oh, I read another article how groups are trying to change pedophilia as a sexual preference and not a disorder. And of course that looks like the slippery slope. I’ll look for the link and share it.
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June 30, 2015 at 11:22 am
I understand what [some] people are saying about the pedophilia slippery slope. I just don’t think that’s a very large number of people. And comparing the two is not a true parallel. As is not the beastiality link. There is no similarity whatsoever. The argument for same-sex marriage has little to do with letting people love who they love. While that is an element of homosexual relationships that is not the measure of why it should be granted legal status. As I told someone yesterday, marriage is a covenant – an agreement between two(or more) parties who have the capacity to enter into such an agreement. Children and animals do not qualify as parties having the capacity to do so. That really is the clincher. As far as I’m concerned there is no slippery slope. I would never and will never support such.
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June 30, 2015 at 11:28 am
I agree with you 100%. It’s that all parties have to be able to consent, obviously children and animals can not consent.
It would be great if one day (if this battle happens) you have gays and straights on the same side. We can’t lower the age of consent!!
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June 30, 2015 at 11:33 am
I think you will be very surprised to find this to be the case. I know several gay people and they are greatly offended to be associated with the pedophilia movement. There is not one of them who would approve or lobby for anything other than age of legal consent. I think it is because Christians, in particular, view homosexuality as depravity and perversion that this comparison ever even gets made. Because surely if one is perverted enough to be homosexual they’re likely to want to have sex with children and animals, too, right? Sigh…
I also think this partly comes from the Catholic priest sexual abuse scandal. Sexual abuse has nothing to do with sexual preference. It’s an abuse of power. Plain and simple.
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June 30, 2015 at 11:48 am
Another point I make frequently…. Not all child molestation is same sex. So to lump homosexuality with pedophilia is wrong.
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June 30, 2015 at 11:27 am
And as for these lawsuits causing churches to go bankrupt? I’m not sure that will happen either. It is my opinion that this would be a rare occurrence and my hope would be that a judge with any sense and understanding of the Constitution would dismiss any such case.
I will say that I find that to be different than, say, a flower shop or baker refusing service. A church and a business should be two different things and unless a business is an explicitly Christian business catering only to Christians I don’t see an out for them giving service in a discriminatory manner.
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June 30, 2015 at 11:31 am
I agree with you there too lol!!
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June 29, 2015 at 12:55 pm
Seneca was right and I paraphrase, religion is thought to be true by the masses, known to be a fraud by the educated and found to be useful by the governors.
The author of those verses knew how to get people to submit to authority, even to tyrants.
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June 30, 2015 at 8:23 am
Well, if you think back to the story of Moses and the ten commandments you can see that quite clearly if you aren’t looking through god goggles.
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June 29, 2015 at 1:04 pm
Facebook needs to change its name to “Pot-Stirrer.” It would be more appropriate.
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June 30, 2015 at 8:25 am
I’m not entirely sure that was the intent, but when people of different opinions all congregate and are able to say things they wouldn’t say in a face to face conversation most anything is bound to come out of it.
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